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Hay Bales

Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2018 6:25 pm
by minniev
A thing I did up for a lesson in using PS to do watercolor-ish stuff. All ideas, suggestions welcome. Original file shot yesterday at sunset, with the bales all lit up in orange light.

Re: Hay Bales

Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2018 9:26 pm
by Psjunkie
My suggestion would be to blend or featherthe vignette a lot more...

Re: Hay Bales

Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2018 5:25 pm
by minniev
Psjunkie wrote:
Mon Aug 27, 2018 9:26 pm
My suggestion would be to blend or featherthe vignette a lot more...
That might be tricky, because it isn't a vignette in the normal sense. It is painted onto parts of a blank canvas that's dropped on/blended into a multicolored background. So the vignette is just the part of the background that's showing. You think brightening the darker areas might help?

Re: Hay Bales

Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2018 6:27 pm
by PietFrancke
I'm with Frank, I don't like the surrounding grunge (too strong in texture and color - for me anyway). But I like the shot and the lighting plenty.

Re: Hay Bales

Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2018 6:48 pm
by Psjunkie
You can try it and see......I find myself looking more at the treatment than the hay bales is all....just my opinion but, vignettes I feel in most cases should be more felt than seen if that makes sense....

Re: Hay Bales

Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2018 1:03 pm
by pop511
"You think brightening the darker areas might help?"
I'm inclined to think of it as softening the dark areas and reduce it's impact.
I cropped the tree line down a bit. Do you think it is better this way, or do you prefer the original?
All I have to do now is work out why my comp changed colours in your picture.
Yep...I work in prophoto RGB...When I changed to Srgb, and then imported, your colours were fine
The original concept is stunning. Well done.
Sorry for the stuff up...

Re: Hay Bales

Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2018 2:28 pm
by minniev
PietFrancke wrote:
Tue Aug 28, 2018 6:27 pm
I'm with Frank, I don't like the surrounding grunge (too strong in texture and color - for me anyway). But I like the shot and the lighting plenty.
Thanks for checking in. The shot and lighting are pretty much as they were. I may experiment with another background to see what that'll do. This one is a painted-canvas background. A plainer one would yield a different look.

Re: Hay Bales

Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2018 2:32 pm
by minniev
pop511 wrote:
Wed Aug 29, 2018 1:03 pm
"You think brightening the darker areas might help?"
I'm inclined to think of it as softening the dark areas and reduce it's impact.
I cropped the tree line down a bit. Do you think it is better this way, or do you prefer the original?
All I have to do now is work out why my comp changed colours in your picture.
Yep...I work in prophoto RGB...When I changed to Srgb, and then imported, your colours were fine
The original concept is stunning. Well done.
Sorry for the stuff up...
I think the background may be overwhelming the image, so i'll try some of these things to tame it. Your crop does simplify things some, and the trees weren't adding much. Colors are always something to deal with! I work in ProPhoto too but always switch to sRGB for posting, and also for outsourced printing. I have learned that even if the printer says they can use Adobe RGB, it's a gamble. I can manage printing from ProPhoto on my own printer where I control everything but once a file gets out of my hands, I am at the mercy of someone else. Sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't.

Re: Hay Bales

Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2018 3:10 am
by Matt Quinn
Minnie, I find the texture and tones on the bales very attractive and successful. The peripheral material in the grass and trees is too smudgy for me and makes the bales look as if they were dropped into another layer without an attempt to blend. Matt

Re: Hay Bales

Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2018 2:05 am
by minniev
Matt Quinn wrote:
Thu Aug 30, 2018 3:10 am
Minnie, I find the texture and tones on the bales very attractive and successful. The peripheral material in the grass and trees is too smudgy for me and makes the bales look as if they were dropped into another layer without an attempt to blend. Matt
It’s an entirely different process than what I normally do, since there really isn’t any photograph showing, all that hay bale stuff is painted in with a weird PS routine I am just starting to experiment with. But I hear ya that the background may be distracting. I wonder if it would have done better on a traditional white textured background.